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Year: 2025
Published in: Spotify App
Cited as: Gazeley, T, (2025). Defence & the Impact Economy. Spotify App.
Subject
Defence & the Impact Economy
Abstract
In this fourth episode of Season 3, our second mini-series kicks off! Host Toby Gazeley from Euclid Network is joined by Martin Luxemburg from the Unknown Group to discuss the potential contribution ‘impact’ enterprises can make in the area of defence. They reflect on the recent event on ‘Securing the Future’, held as a side event to the NATO Summit in The Hague in 2025 at Titaan – a central part of the impact campus that the Unknown Group is building in The Hague.
Martin and Toby discuss the wider implications for innovation and areas like ‘peace tech’ stemming from an increased focus on defence investments. They also note the potential knock-on benefits across society and the economy innovations in one particular field can have. Securing the Future will return in 2026, next time with even more hands-on opportunities for founders to showcase their innovative products in the defence sector.
As well as getting our discussion about the relationship between the social economy and defence started, Martin was also generous enough to recommend a podcast for our Dutch listeners: Alle Geschiedenis Ooit – Grote Namen (All History Ever – Big Names) – a history podcast looking at the lives of significant historical figures. Toby also jumped in with another history podcast, this one in English: Empire, with a particular recommendation for the episodes on ‘The Trouble’.
Please do get in touch to toby@euclidnetwork.eu with questions and comments.
A special thanks to our producer Jan Kiszowara and the European Commission for making The Social Economist possible.

